Transcript for Video Clip: Dr. Aimee Holt (School Psychology)
Interviewer:
 Welcome to our next guest speaker. I'd like to have her go ahead and 
introduce herself and briefly describe your area of specialization.
Dr. Holt:
 I'm Aimee Holt and my area of specialization is school psychology. That
 is probably an area that most people have not heard of, unless they're 
familiar with special education. And so I often find when I talk to 
undergraduates, even some graduate students, that they're very confused 
about what a school psychologist actually does.
Int:
 I've obviously got some questions about that, so hopefully you can 
answer some of those for us, Aimee. What are the career opportunities 
for students who specialize in this area? Or, what are some of the 
things that a person can do in this area? 
Dr. H:
 The majority of school psychologists work in the public education 
setting, but that's not the only place they work. They also work in 
private schools. Some of them work for acute care hospitals that work 
with children that might have a school as a component of that or long 
term residential treatment facilities. Some at the doctoral level go on 
into private practice and have their own practices and things like that.
 So there's a wide variety of settings. But the primary setting that 
we're in is in the public school setting.
Int: I guess there's also the academic positions, like the one you're in...
Dr. H: That's correct. 
Int:
 How about, could you describe what a typical work day -- I know that 
might be hard to do because there's a lot of variation -- but a typical 
work day might be for somebody working, maybe especially in the schools.
 
Dr. H: Well, it's probably a good idea 
to give them a background on how school psychology, or what a school 
psychologist is and then from there lead into a typical day. The school 
psychologist is the person that provides the mental health link in the 
academic, in the public school setting. So what we're interested in is, 
what are the issues that may prevent a child from learning at their 
potential, whether it be academic concerns, or behavioral, or emotional 
concerns. So our focus is on how do we work with the parents and the 
staff to increase the likelihood for that child to be successful in the 
public school setting. 
As far as the typical day goes, a lot of 
people when they hear "school psychology," assume that we only do 
assessment and they think about assessment real narrowly, that we're 
just sitting there giving a bunch of IQ tests. While that is a primary 
part of our job (assessment's a primary part of our job), in a lot of 
places IQ testing isn't really as active in the assessment process. And 
school psychologists, especially, we're more interested in studying the 
environment. And so we'll start off with classroom observations, 
interviews with the teacher, reviewing works samples, interviewing 
parents, to finally get to, try and get an idea of what are the issues 
or the concerns. And then we try to look for what are things we can 
change in the environment, that might improve the student's learning. We
 start there and so what we'll do is work with the teacher and recommend
 interventions to be done in the regular class settings. We'll monitor 
those, kind of set up a research design, to see how effective those 
interventions are. If the child is still struggling after those 
interventions, we may makes some modifications to them, or at that 
point, we may refer for formal testing. But a lot of the problem-solving
 we do is prior to any formal testing being done. A lot of the kids, we 
can remediate problems just by making modifications in the regular 
classroom environment.
Int: So there's kind of data collection, observations, maybe speaking with the teachers, or the parents, or the kids themselves. 
Dr. H:
 That�s right. We kind of look at school psychology as providing two 
types of services, we provide indirect services and direct services. 
Indirect services would be the things where we are doing consultation 
with the teacher and the parent on strategies and suggestions to improve
 academic performance, or emotional, or behavioral issues that are 
impacting academic performance. For example, if we had an ADHD student 
and the parent was having difficulty with the child getting homework 
done, we might work in consultation with the parent on strategies to 
help with homework. On the other hand -- that same child -- if the 
problem was the child getting their assignments completed in class, then
 we might work with the classroom teacher doing consultation to 
determine how can we redefine the way assignments are done so as to 
increase the likelihood of those getting turned in on time -- if that's 
what the issue or the concern is.
Int: So it sounds like you have to be pretty flexible in this job. 
Dr. H:
 It is definitely. It is a job that every single day you will do 
something different. You may be in consultation meetings, you may be 
involved in meetings. Once a child is already placed in special 
education, the school psychologist's office serves as a kind of 
consultant on what can we expect as far as the growth rate for the 
child, what kinds of improvements should we be expecting, we look back 
and kind of evaluate the program of education they've been on. Are they 
making adequate process? You may be doing consulting work with the 
principal or even higher at the superintendent level if there's a 
district-wide concern about, now with national testing, high states 
testing with no child left behind and those programs. We look at how, 
what types of curriculum maybe need to change, so that scores can 
improve district-wide, or for an entire school building and then, there 
is, as far as the direct services go, that's when we might be involved 
in actually testing a child to see if they qualify for special 
education, meeting with the families to review, and the teachers to 
review, those test results. We also will do therapy, not the kind of 
therapy that you might think about with a child clinical person. We 
would be working primarily doing individual or small group work with 
children already in special education and addressing behavioral and 
emotional issues that are causing them academic problems in the school 
setting. So, generally it's really limited to academic -- you know, 
things that are contributing to academic difficulties.
Int:
 My next question is, what are, I guess, kind of in a nutshell, what are
 the basic or extensive training requirements to be able to work in this
 area?
Dr. H: The minimum requirement is 
what's called an EdS, it's beyond a master's degree. Most programs that 
offer an EdS are three-year programs, two years of coursework and then a
 year of internship. For most people, that one year of internship is a 
paid internship, can be a paid internship experience. So you�re working,
 but you�re working under supervision for a year. That's the primary 
degree, the majority of school psychologists have. There are some people
 that go on to get the doctorate degree. Those are people who are 
primarily interested in doing research or working in an academic setting
 or people who are interested in becoming a district-wide supervisor. So
 maybe the director of psychological services for a large school 
district, that person might have a PhD, but the general practicing 
person is going to have the EdS. 
Int: Anybody who's a school psychologist, officially titled, has an EdS. 
Dr. H:
 As of 2000, when the laws changed in 2000. The EdS certification is 
required in almost all states. There are a few states that still allow a
 master's, but almost all states have gone to the EdS.
Int:
 OK, a little bit different kind of question. Is there a certain kind of
 person that you think is best suited for working in this area or, maybe
 a different way of putting it, what personal characteristics do you 
think are most important for working in this area, somebody who works in
 this area? 
Dr. H: I think one of the 
things you pointed out earlier, adaptability, somebody who really enjoys
 problem solving. You know, usually when I'm working with my graduate 
students, you know, I say our role is the detective. Our job is to 
figure out what are some of the underlying causes of the problems and 
what are some strategies that we could recommend, that are research 
based, that would help alleviate the difficulty. It needs to be somebody
 who enjoys working, both with children and adults, because we do have 
to work with both. You have to have the ability to work independently. 
You have to have good time management skills, because oftentimes, school
 psychologists are assigned to -- where a school guidance counselor
 may be housed in a single building. A school psychologist is usually 
assigned to two or three different schools. And so, one day a week, 
maybe assigned to school A that may be a smaller school and then two 
days a week you devote to school B, that's a little bit larger school. 
One day a week you may reserve for report writing and some of those kind
 of in-house office days that you need. Some school psychologists, in 
fact, that have very large high schools may actually be assigned to that
 building for the entire week, especially if you have several thousand 
students in that one building. 
Int: OK, what would you say are the major positives and major negatives about being a school psychologist?
Dr. H:
 I had the fortune of working out in the field as a school psychologist 
before going back and getting my doctoral degree and I loved the job. I 
mean, the actual day-to-day practice of a school psychologist, to me, is
 fascinating. Probably the best thing about it is you get to work with 
children to help them feel successful. And so, to me, that was the most 
rewarding. I mean, there were so many times, after testing and 
discovering what a problem was and explaining that problem to the child 
and the family, and then have a child look at you and say, "You mean I'm
 not stupid?" That's such a rewarding experience to know that you helped
 hand someone the keys, sometimes to access the knowledge that they've 
been wanting, or to help them resolve a problem in a healthier, more 
productive way for themselves. That to me, definitely is the most 
rewarding part. And you see results very quickly in the school setting. 
Teachers expect there to be results fairly quickly and if not we go to 
the next level, until we achieve the results we need. So there�s some 
pretty immediate feedback about how successful your intervention 
strategies and those things are. That part, I think, is really positive.
 
As far as the negative concepts are sometimes there are some 
really difficult problems to solve. We are very much in a time where we 
are seeing types of services that might have been available in the 
private sector shrinking, and so more and more children with more 
profound issues are needing those issues met in the public school 
system, because those community-based resources aren't there. And then, 
in addition to that, we are experiencing a real change in our culture 
and becoming much more of a multicultural society. And so it's not 
unusual, as a school psychologist, to help work with teachers that may 
be experiencing children who are refugees, who their first exposure to a
 public school setting may even be as a third or a fourth grader and 
they are having to learn a language, they're having to learn a culture 
and customs, and so helping teachers adapt to that, those situations. 
And often times I think the undergraduate students, when I describe that
 are really surprised, even in the middle Tennessee area where we are, 
there are some high schools, in Nashville, for example, where over 50 
languages are spoken in that one school. So the idea that schools are 
kind of like a little microcosm of what is happening in the community. 
You can watch every night on the nightly news and see some of the issues
 that are happening in our community in general. Those same issues then 
show up in our school setting, so whether it's violence, victimization, 
academic issues, you know, adjustment to multicultural identity. Those 
are all things that a school psychologist becomes knowledgeable about. 
So you know, therefore the job, at times, can be stressful.
Int: OK,
 one last question. Do you have any advice that you'd give to students 
who are interested about preparing for a career in this area? 
Dr. H:
 There are several things I would recommend doing. One of the things I 
would suggest is seeking out the professors that are a part of the 
school psych program and letting them mentor you through some of your 
elective class selection and maybe even talk to them about possibilities
 for minors and those kinds of things. Often times we've got some good 
insight into what kinds of things you could put together to really help 
increase your knowledge or your understanding, even before you get to 
apply to a program. I would also recommend that when they get to that 
place when they're starting to look at programs they ought to look for 
programs that have the national certification, although we have several 
programs in our state that don't have national certification that are 
good programs. The advantage of the national certification is that, many
 times other states will give reciprocity, which means you don't have to
 take additional licensing exams in those other states in order to 
practice. So, especially if you're an undergraduate student that thinks 
that someday you might actually live somewhere other than Tennessee, it 
would be advantageous to seek out a school psych program that has NASP 
certification, which is our national organization, National Association 
of School Psychologists. And those programs generally are going to be 
programs that are going to meet requirements for any state that you 
might want to move to.
Int: OK, we'll 
have more information and resources, related links and so on in the 
"Learn More About It!" course modules. I just wanted to take this 
opportunity to thank you very much, Dr. Holt, and we'll see you all back
 online.